Forestry Programme Submission
Together with 7 other producer groups and with the assistance of ICOS, a submission to the Department of Agriculture was made on the proposed new Forestry Programme 2014-
The legal state of the group was confirmed in September as Limerick and Tipperary Woodland Owners Ltd.
This is a "company, limited by guarentee", where maximum exposure to each member, in the event of failure of the company, is one euro.
Two machines are currently (November 2014) operating for members in the 2 counties, doing 1st and 2nd thinning. Due to extra demand from last spring’s storm, there is a waiting list for harvesting, so any member who wants their plantation thinned should contact the secretary on 087-
2014 Annual General Meeting
On 26th March Limerick and Tipperary Woodland Owners held their Third AGM in Kilshane House Co Tipperary.
The morning session begun with a forest walk in the commercial forestry plantations of Kilshane House, Topics covering all aspects of forestry plantations and topical windblow situations were discussed at length by Teagasc Forestry Advisors Michael Somers (Advisor for Tipperary), Tom Houlihan (Advisor for Limerick) and Forest Service Inspector John Madden (Limerick and Tipperary NW area).
The afternoon session had some interesting topics covered by Guest speaker Henry Philips on the valuation of forestry land, a Teagasc update was given by Forestry Advisor Michael Somers of Teagasc Tipperary, Independent Forestry Consultant Con Little also spoke about the exciting future and potential of timber production in Limerick and Tipperary and a financial account was given by Jim Dudley Facilitator for the Limerick and Tipperary Woodland Owners. Overall the meeting was well attended with approx 60 members attending along with trade stands belonging to Glennon Brothers, Laois Sawmills and Muarry Timber group also in attendance.
The outgoing committee were re-elected to their positions as follows, Michael Ryan - Chairman, John Reardon - Vice Chairman, Michael Carew - Treasurer and Colum Walsh - Secretary, A number of new and existing members were also elected onto the steering committee. If you are interested in becoming a member of Limerick and Tipperary Woodland Owners please log onto our website and join online at www.limerickandtipperarywoodlandowners.ie
Forest Owner Groups Conference 2013
‘Strength in Numbers’
We will be attending the Teagasc/LTWO forestry group conference in the Ballykisteen Hotel, Limerick Junction, Co. Tipperary, on Tuesday October 8th 2013.
View the programme of events here.
Some updates have been applied to the LTWO site.
An informational video had been embedded which shows how to spot the tell-tale signs of ash dieback. It can be found on the Ash Dieback page here.
If you experience any issues with the website, or have any suggestions for improvement, please feel free to contact us at: email@example.com
2013 Annual General Meeting
The 2013 AGM was held on 4th March at Ballykisteen Hotel, the most central location to serve the 2 counties.
There was a very good attendance on the night with over 70 members turning up.
Following the reading of the minutes and reports from the secretary, Treasurer and Chairman, the meeting was addressed by the guest speaker, Ms Geraldine o Sullivan, Executive Sec of IFA Forest Section. Geraldine is a mine of information and brought everyone up to date on issues of National and International importance.
Tom Houlihan and Michael Somers of Teagasc gave a very informative overview of the domestic situation including markets and pricing.
The Ash dieback disease was also covered and a video has been posted on our website informing owners how to recognize the disease.
A lively Q & A session followed a discussion on the future direction and aims of the group. These included a possible change in the Legal status of the Group, the current status of the proposed inventory of member’s plantations and the opening up of new markets for pulpwood. Certification possibilities and requirements in the future were also discussed.
Another meeting will be scheduled in the near future to make decisions on these matters.
Finally, elections were held at which outgoing officers were re-elected.
Tea & coffee were served afterwards at which many informal discussions took place.
Update on Ash Dieback Disease
More info here.
Ash Dieback Disease
As an island nation we have a distinct advantage over other European countries. As a direct result of being cut off from our nearest neighbour by sea, coupled with prevailing southwesterly winds, we enjoy the highest plant health status in Europe.
But these advantages were of little use this week when Ash Dieback was confirmed in plantations in Co Leitrim.The arrival of the disease in Ireland is bad news for Irish forestry growers and could be potentially disastrous for the sector if the fungus takes hold in plantations.
The following is an information document on the Disease by the British Forestry Commission.
Ash dieback disease - FC Pest Alert
UPDATE: More info here.
September 2012 Newsletter (Online Edition)
Hello all current and potential members of the Limerick and Tipperary Wood Land Owners Group.
After a successful AGM in Ballykisteen Tipperary in February it has been a very busy couple of months during which a number of steering group meetings have been held with a lot of progress achieved. The development of a website along with the development of a group texting service was completed. Initiating further cluster group meetings in several new areas was completed. Currently ours is one of the largest forestry producer groups in Ireland with a total membership area of approx 3900 acres belonging to some 150 members with a lot of interest from new members wishing to join and gain in the benefits of being a member.
New members are always welcome, please call us on our mobile or email us and we will send on the necessary membership form.
Cluster Group Meetings 2012: So far cluster group meetings were held in seven of the eleven cluster area’s for 2012. These meetings were generally well attended and a lot of enthusiasm was evident at most meetings. General questions revolved around the steps needed to be taken to start the thinning process. Naturally, some people were nervous about starting the process of thinning and felt that through the cluster group system more supports was available to them and that knowledge transfer at the demonstration sites was very helpful on how to begin thinning. It is very encouraging to hear that some cluster groups have members already talking of coming together and organising their own thinning operations in clusters as intended, and some other cluster groups are planning to possibly thin in 3 – 4 years time and intend pooling the harvesting operations to keep costs low.
Website Launch: A website has been developed for the group. It contains up to date information on all aspects of forestry and is very user friendly. It can be viewed at www.limerickandtipperarywoodlandowners.ie
Forestry Events 2012: A number of training field days and evening talks are planned for the year a head 2012. Sites from the 2011 site visits are being revisited post thinning, providing some very useful practical information on how to manage good thinning operations. Members will be informed of dates.
A lot of feed back from cluster group meetings has revolved around “What do I need to do to get started???” If your plantation is between 12-17 years old it probably needs some form of management.
CLUSTER GROUP: To begin with you should find out through your nearest cluster is anyone else in the area ready or approaching the same stage as yourself?
BRASH PATH: You will need brash paths cut into the forest. Become familiar with the safety requirements if doing the job yourself and attend cluster meetings on brash path planning.
FORESTER INSPECTION: You should than have your forest inspected by our forester and make sure to make use of reduced costs by again clustering together with a few members to avail of the forester on the same day at a reduced cost.
FOREST ROADING: The forester will advise you on if your forest needs a forest road and if it is ready to thin.
TENDER HARVESTING CONTRACT: Then if your forest is ready to thin and a cluster of members are ready to thin the possibility of tendering the work out to the best priced contractor (references should be looked for of previous work done and a contract drawn up on the operations and payment)
The Limerick and Tipperary Woodland Owners have a new website. This new site will provide members of the organisation with helpful advice, information, price guidelines and contacts for useful plantation forestry work.
With this information, woodland owners will be better equipped to get the best possible price for their timber, through finding a contractor that will harvest for the most efficient price, finding a sawmill with the best prices, and receiving all the grants possibly available for such work.
We would like to thank Artemis Design for their expert work, and fantastic value.
So please take time to look through all the extensive information on the this website.
2010 was the worst year on record for forest fires when almost 5,000 acres were destroyed. Many farmers did not have insurance and they not only lost the value of the timber but also incurred the cost of clearing and replanting.
Farmers should adhere to the restrictions on the cutting , burning or destruction of vegetation growing on uncultivated land or in hedges during the nesting and breeding season from March 1st to August 31st.
IFA have joined forces with FBD to develop the Timber Growing Insurance policy that covers the fire brigade call out charges, loss of timber and replanting cost. It has also been extended to cover fire brigade call out charges for a fire in the vicinity of a forest that may threaten neighbouring plantations.
Walkers and other recreational users of the countryside need to be particularly careful. Cigarette butts should be properly disposed of and campfires fully extinguished to avoid any further fires.
Farmers should be aware that the price of wood may or may not include vat in the quoted price by a sawmill.
There has been much confusion expressed among Forestry members with regard to VAT in forestry related operations and
sales. Outlined below are the facts which relate to the major questions which are arising.
(Regarded as Agricultural Goods and Services)
• The VAT rate for forestry services* is the Reduced rate of 13.5%
• This is covered by: Value-Added Tax Consolidation Act 2010 (VATCA 2010), Section: 46(1)(c), Schedule: 3,
*Forestry Services include; lopping, tree felling, pruning, hedge trimming & similar forestry services, combined sowing and
• The VAT rate on sales of timber is the Standard Rate of 23%
• This is covered by: Value-Added Tax Consolidation Act 2010 (VATCA 2010) Ref: Section: 46(1)(a)
• A flat-rate farmer is a farmer who is not registered for VAT in respect of his/her farming activities. In order to
compensate for VAT paid on supplies, a farmer is entitled to a flat-rate addition (currently 5.2%) to the price at which
their agricultural produce or agricultural services are supplied to VAT-registered persons**
**VAT-registered persons also include: marts, agricultural co-operatives and meat factories.
A revised forest roads scheme has replaced the old scheme which was closed on December 2011
The details of the new Roads Scheme and the main changes from the old scheme are outlined below:
1. Maximum Payment per linear metre: €35 (reduction of €10).
2. Road density allowed per hectare: 20 linear metres (reduction of 5 metres).
3. Payments will be made net of VAT, regardless of applicant’s VAT status.
4. The construction of certain ‘Loading bays’ maybe grant aided where the area allows.
5. Pull in lay-bys (longitudinal loading bays) may be considered on a case by case basis and where the area
6. Farmers, private forest owners and private forest companies will be eligible for the grant aid under the
Forest Road Scheme.